Shaycarl and the Shaytards
Shaycarl is a youtube celebrity. He and his wife have a few channels and currently they post daily videos on their Shaytards channel. The family consists of Shaycarl, Mommy-tard, Son-tard, Princess-tard and Baby-tard. They never mention that they are lds but if your mo-dar is on you can tell. First, they’re from Eastern Idaho (Pocatello). Second, they go to church every Sunday. Third, mommy-tard wears knee length shorts. The kicker was when he was helping his non-lds youtube friend move and was asleep on his couch the friend recorded him sleeping with no shirt over his garment top. Then to drive it home he had a short recording while at church and the hymn was Joseph’s first prayer. Raise your hand if you’ve seen his videos and guessed he was a Mormon.
It seems there are a lot of people here who don’t know very much about Mormons. If you like the Shaytards and ask yourself why a young couple like them would have 4 children so young and be so happy spending time together you can learn more about their religious beliefs.
After less than 3 minutes of watching 3 different videos (without noticing any of the above mentioned), I KNEW they were LDS, and then did the search. We’re kind of obvious folks.
Yes, all the above mentioned is what gave me the exact thought and sharing it with husband and family that I felt they were. The last few blogs were a real giveaway…for where they stopped and having such loving family ties.
This family changed my whole perception that I previously had towards mormons. I’m shocked and thrilled at the same time. I wanna join this club!
Moi, go to http://mormon.org to learn more about mormons. It is an awesome “club” to join. Even though not all mormons are like the shaytards.
http://www.shaytardsclub.com best place to discuss the videos of shaytards.take a look you will enjoy a lot
I’m not from the States so I don’t really have a “Modar”, seeing as I’ve never met any mormans.
I found their dog’s name “Malachi” intruiging, and looked up the name. Malachi is a sort of prophet-type figure adorned by christians but particularly the mormans. That’s how I found out.
I’m an agnostic myself and although I respect the religion and those who choose to follow it, like many religions… it seems pretty far-fetched and weird.
Nice to meet you Charly. Now you’ve met a Mormon. We know we’re weird. Sometimes weird is good.
Don’t join the lds “club” as it is a cult.
I wonder if Matt even knows what a cult is? haha.
I’m Mormon too and I first discovered the Shaytards a few weeks ago…at first I thought they were of course a hiliarious fun family, then I noticed just how much they love each other and all the time they spend together, could they be Mormon? Nah…um, I don’t think so. Then I noticed how modestly shaycarl’s wife and sister dress (although nowadays most women with their physiques usually wear skimpy clothing, but not the shaytards, nope). And how they were going to church out of habit, and they dressed a lot like Mormons on a Sunday. And mamatard’s knee-length shorts in another video. What locked it in one day was when I saw a picture of Gordon B. Hinckley on their refrigerator. Oh, I LOVE the Shaytards! But one note, I tried acting “fun” like the Shaytard parents with my kids one day, and my daughter has since gone into potty training regression. I guess “fun” mom threw her off a bit. Haha.
In the video posted on Jan. 30th, 2010, the daughter tells her mom she just washed her “CTR Ring”….it’s at the first of the clip, I’d have to say, now that I know they are Mormon I am more interested in watching them now. Funny Mormons break the stereotypes and I appreciate that.
The Old Nauvoo hoodie on Mommy-tard was the clincher for me. lol These folks are hysterical!
Matt, come on. Mornonism isn’t a cult. Geez. I was raised in the Mormon church, and even though I no longer go, believe me, it’s not a cult.
It’s just a bunch of nice folks who believe in God and family and doing kind things for people.
Well if you just go to Shay’s Myspace, you’ll see “Mormon” listed as his religion.
http://www.myspace.com/shaycarl
Mormonism ABSOLUTELY is a cult, look at the structure of the church, do the research, Joseph Smith was a convicted con man … the mormon story is just riddled with holes…
Angela you are a class 5 moron.
The episode where they decide to burn the SI swim suit edition raised my suspicions, but his shouting “Oh my Heck” was the clincher.
They also cross their arms to pray
he could just as easily be a Christian. There is nothing that indicates he is mormon.
Except everything indicates he is mormon..
yeah, theres so many little hints here and there that indicate they are mormons. the only thing that kinda backlashes everything is that shay works on the station with all his friends in california (which arent mormon) and the station has very innapropriate materials on it. which if i worked around that i would quit. plus they are always breaking the sabbath and going to restaurants and other places.
but the mormon in them shines out far more then these things so yeah,
awesome family, want to be just like shay when im a dad.
P.S. Bryan your a jerk and know one likes being around people with your attitude
so you believe that a young man who had the education and literature expertise of a 3rd grader faked a whole entire book that which can only be compared to the signifacance of the bible?
i dont think so Brian.
It was the holy spirit and the power of the lord which guided this young man to translate the book of mormon. and to Joseph smiths best efforts he DID translate it and he was persucuted and tarred and feathered and eventually killed for his belief and work, by people JUST LIKE YOU Brian, people who called this church a CULT.
The church of jesus christ of latter day saints is NOT a cult. and i will justify it and not let you spit lies against it from your twisted tongue.
have you ever been to our church Brian? WE do not shout our songs or pay are priests. we give humble thanks to our lord and help our fellow man and strive to give charity which is the love of our savior jesus christ who died and atoned for our sins. we are here to learn and grow that we may prepare to live in the eternal glory of the celestrial kingdom of our Heavenly Father.
Sad to see that they are Mormon. It IS a cult… Not to say this out of rudeness or hate towards Mormons (I LOVE the ShayTards) but for the sake of eternal life it needs to be known that Mormons will not see the rewards of Heaven by believing this. When looking in the Old Testament of the Word of God it says “5 Every word of God is tested; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.6 Do not add to His words, or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.” Proverbs 30:5-6
Published in March of 1830, the Book of Mormon is an addition to the Word of God, being used to study along with the Bible by Mormons.
It also mentions not to change or add to the Bible in many other places within it.
Here is a good website explaining more. I hope you learn from it as I have…
http://www.carm.org/mormonism
Thanks,
God Bless
All forms of religion is a cult truly.
This crap about blind faith gets pounded into your head for years and You are told that if you do not believe very bad things will happen. OHH NO! C’mon folks Please step back and put your adult thinking cap on for a min and if you use just a SMALL amount of logic it is very easy to see that its all lies.
The Bible is a fairy tale.
The Book of Mormon is a comedy.
interesting stuff owen thanks for posting
hi came here via a google search on the wonderful shaytards.
so they go to church on sundays? if its what they do then cool! here in the uk we have no real idea about mormonism, only through the sqewered filter of the media..
if shay and katilette are the product of mormon upbringings then something good must be happening
cheers
jeff
Did I know they were Mormons? Honestly, not really. Did I realize they think “Annoying = Comedy” and that having “tards” for “unitards” is universal fuckin’ irony? Absolutely.
the book of mormon is not an “addition to the bible” it does not rewrite the bible in any way.
think of it like this.
most books have that little copyright claim saying know one is to add to this book or change it in any way ETC. but does that mean the author is not allowed to right another book pertaining to the story of the first?
No.
God is the author of the Bible AND the book of mormon.
and do you even know what the meaning of a cult is Owen?
a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister : a network of Satan-worshiping cults.
WE DO NOT WORSHIP SATAN.
that is absoulutley ludicrous and ridiculous that people would say or even begin to think that we are a CULT
we are the church of jesus christ of latter day saints and are numbers are not few.
we strive to do good and help others. we have been persecuted since the beginning and will be till the end, but when Christ comes again. you will no the truth. we all will. i challenge everyone to read the book of mormon. open your mind and heart to its pages.
I pray for those who dont understand. and i feel amazing sadness for those who refuse to understand.
I am not Mormon and I had no idea they were Mormon. I am a Christian and to the people who dislike Mormons lthey are also Christians. Just because you may may not believe what their religion stares you dont have thw right to. slam them, I do know my God would not point fingers and ridicule others. And I know for sure my Christian God, and his son Jesus are the same.
My mo-dar was activated when I realized how young and good looking mom & dad are yet they already have 3 kids (with a fourth now on the way). Once he mentioned the CTR ring, my mo-dar was no longer needed.
I do think they fit many of the stereotypes, but are more laid back than Utah mormons. They’re California mormons after all!
Was just thinking how cool it was to see such energetic parents & Googled them. Say what you will about the Mormon faith, they “get” the whole family thing. Kids are a blast more than something to be suffered.
Life in general ought to be a blast. The Shaytards aren’t exactly cutting edge Lenny Bruce social commentary. But their joie de vivre is delightfully infectious. IMHO, think that’s what late night TV is missing since the departure of Johnny Carson.
Questioning my knowledge of a Cult is not the issue, although your understanding of it is incorrect.
A cult, generally, it is a group that is unorthodox, esoteric, and has a devotion to a person, object, or a set of new ideas.(carm.org)
And you are saying that the BOM is written by our God?
Them same god that claims to be from another planet? Like it is believed by the Mormons? (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333)
Are you saying the the one true God who wrote in the Bible saying “the Lord, He is God; there is no other besides Him” (Deut. 4:35). Is the same god that told J. Smith that ‘There are many gods’, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).
You are also saying that the bible agrees with the teachings of Mormons when this cult says ‘After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god, (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354.)?
When the one true word of God says, “…before me there was no God formed, and there will be none after me!” (Is. 43:10).
I have a hard time understanding why the followers of this cult believe that the Bible and the BOM go hand in hand, when the Lord will deny the teachings that have been followed by them on judgment day.
I write all this out of love for you and all brothers/sisters in Christ. The false teachings will lead to eternal hell if you don’t repent, and follow the true word of God intended for us to follow from the very beginning.
For more info I encourage you to seek this site, http://www.carm.org/mormonism
God Bless…
Not club, cult.
in one of the videos he actually mentions that he was in west indies for the 2 years mission mandatory to all LDS
Hey! My “modar” (never heard of that word till seeing this site) was triggered when someone asked Shay if he “sang this song in Mormon church?” Not much to question there.
I don’t really like organized religion, and the story of the Smith guy doesn’t make sense because of several reasons.
BUT, I think the mormons DO have a great thing going with their family ideas. Except the fact that women are more restricted than the men. For example, the clothing, men can wear anything and women can’t. Also, women don’t have the same “rights” in the afterlife. Men get to have all this power and women don’t? No… I don’t think so. Way too sexist for me.
Anyways, back to what I was saying. At least in the area of parents and their children spending quality time together, I think the mormons are doing a great job!
Believing in ANY religion is a sickness/mental disorder. Their should be no religions.
Ashley,
Thanks for the compliments. It really is refreshing to see a family like the shaytards on youtube. I understand organized religion isn’t for everyone but you have some facts wrong. Men are just as restricted as women in what they wear (more so, probably – we pretty much only wear white shirts and ties to church). Also, women have all the power that men have. We believe that husband and wife are equals.
Oh wow Angela, I forgot only Mormons have loving families!
… WE ARE NOT A CULT!!!!!!!!!!!!
the bible a fairytale? i’m pretty sure that it’s a story about astrology\astrotheology.
I believe someday, that those who are ultimately rightous, and endure to the end can have “god like powers” as he does, I think you misunderstand that we wont become THEE GOD, there is only One God. but that we can someday become like him.
There are many mysteries of the kingdom of god that we “mormons” do not know. some which are not known for good reason.
Wether you believe in our religion, or any religion for that matter, you cannot have a perfect knowledge of everything. and when you try to, it just causes confusion and trouble. i definitely do not have all the answers. but i do have Faith.
Faith is not a perfect knowlege of things, wherefore if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen which are true.
Im sorry you feel that way about our church Owen and i wish you the best.
those who contend with us, do not truly know us.
You say the Mormons are a Club? Then why do they claim to be a religion? is this just for tax evasion? I know the Scientologists do this for the same reaason… (IE call them selves a Church when they are really a Self Help Club.) I guess France doesn’t Recognize Scientologists as a Religian, Do you guys since you are a “Club” have the same Problem? I’ve always wanted to start a new “Club” for tax purposes. Do you have any tips/Links to share! Thanks and Shay is very funny.
There is only one God, and there is none LIKE Him, nor will there ever be.
I too understand that not all answers can be found, and that walking in faith is the way to believing. However, some beliefs of the Mormons are just completely out of context from the bible, they can be answered or corrected through the Word of God.
And I wish only the best for you, especially that you will feel the conviction in your heart that points you towards trusting in the words God provided for us.
It really isn’t a club someone earlier just said they wanted to join the club so I was replying to that.
Believing there’s no intelligence greater than humanity is arrogance.
Would that there were no arrogance or narcissism.
The book of moron is the word of god. have you read it? have you ever heard the prophet speak at general conference? its literally the most truthfull thing ive ever seen in the world!
believe me i had my doubts to, no one can tell you for yourself. only you can.
and remember that the Bible has been translated many times of the centuries. im sure that it is VERY different now from when it was first put together.
Brian, in what ways is she a moron? Instead of blindly attacking her, why don’t you elaborate? I’d be real interested to hear your thoughts.
You’re not a cult. Scientology is a cult. You’re religion has good values but is rediculous and something should not be followed if it has good values but is obviously fictional.
“Nice folks”, until your an ex-mormon. Google ex-mormon and find out yourself.
“The book of moron” is right!
ment mormon, no need to be rude Will, obviously you are a man that let satan right through the front door, im terribly sorry. was it a member of the church?
Mormonism is a cult. The way they treate ex-mormon’s and the way they raise their children and brain wash them is that of a cult. The way they believe Indians are descended from Jews despite DNA evidence is just stupid aswell mormons are scum and I have already beaten up 2 mormons so far and hoping to kill one one day
And you are saying that the BOM is written by our God?
Them same god that claims to be from another planet? Like it is believed by the Mormons? (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333)
Are you saying the the one true God who wrote in the Bible saying “the Lord, He is God; there is no other besides Him” (Deut. 4:35). Is the same god that told J. Smith that ‘There are many gods’, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).
You are also saying that the bible agrees with the teachings of Mormons when this cult says ‘After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god, (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354.)?
When the one true word of God says, “…before me there was no God formed, and there will be none after me!” (Is. 43:10).
I have a hard time understanding why the followers of this cult believe that the Bible and the BOM go hand in hand, when the Lord will deny the teachings that have been followed by them on judgment day.
I write all this out of love for you and all brothers/sisters in Christ. The false teachings will lead to eternal hell if you don’t repent, and follow the true word of God intended for us to follow from the very beginning.
For more info I encourage you to seek this site, http://www.carm.org/mormonism
God Bless…
Is this just a copy and paste from Owen above?
The answer to your question is that yes, we believe there is only one God (capital G). Our Heavenly Father. He created our spirits and the earth. Just like we all have one biological father and only one. And, just like a loving father, God wants his children to inherit what He has and know what He knows. By your logic, it is blasphemy to practice any science or learn to love like God loves because we’re not aloud to be “Like” God.
God’s mysteries can be discovered in more than just The Bible. The Bible was created by men. The words in the Bible are the words of God but the Bible itself was created by men. Nowhere in The Bible does the word “bible” even exist.
I think you misunderstand what you’ve been told about Mormons. We worship One God. The God of the Bible and of all mankind.
He might have ment class 5 Mormon. I made the same mistake in the post below
Wow, that’s some pretty disgusting hate right there dude.
Brian is right. Mormons are wack. Mormons teach good values? Well, I do know that they teach LIES about history.
Last time I checked, lying isn’t a good value.
But the mormons teach that they are the only “one true church” so how could they claim to worship the same God who is going to send every other non-mormon to hell?
Oh. Yeah. Mormons can baptize the dead and “save” them! Yay.
Get real. Your religion is fiction from the mind of a CONVICTED con artist.
It won’t be hard to kill them. They ride their bikes like morons. All you have to do is catch them on a rural road and flatten them in the shoulder or go ahead and run them over as they cut across the street stupidly.
The best is the old wave to say “go ahead” and when they go, gas it hard.
Mormons deserve to meet their god. You are doing them a favor. Don’t let these other people call it “hate”.
Really! Is it hate to send someone to their heaven? I don’t think so.
Yes, we teach we are the “one true church” but what does that mean? Do we teach that only mormons go to heaven? no. We actually teach that almost everyone will go to heaven. We teach there are three degrees of heaven and basically you will go where you feel most comfortable.
“Hell” as you call it is reserved for Satan and his followers. I don’t believe you follow Satan. You have your faults just as I have my faults and I can’t judge you because I am not God.
I choose to love you even though you threaten to kill people of my faith. I’ll pretend your comments were meant to be sarcastic. I’m really sorry you feel the way you do. Your ideas of what we believe are half truths spread by others like yourself.
It is “hate” to want to kill someone. honestly if you don’t believe our teachings that’s totally fine. But those who choose to actually persecute our religion and make death threats. Those are the people who I believe Satan has full control over and they don’t even know it. Your theorys and accusations about our church are obviously deluted.
Even if they are mormon, whos is any1 to care?? Its not your life so dont try to control it. You can hate it all you want just keep it to yourself and the 1s that agree. I dont think youd want some1 saying crap about you?? Exactly. The world today would be so much better if people just didnt care like me. No1s perfect so just accept it as is! i myself am a christian and i dont like or accept their mormon, but i dont complain. I still love and watch ALL their videos!!
Do mormons still practice polygamy.I know the ansewer has to be “no” because a “yes” gets you excommunicated from the church. What are the chances a beautiful young(twenties not a teenager) mormon woman with a baby would not be married?
Not very likely but it does definitely happen. It appears Shaycarl’s sister, CarlyStyle is a single mom. I don’t know if she was previously married or not but I don’t really care. She seems to take pretty good care of her son and has a very supportive family.
I am a Christian from Canada and just a few months ago i had missionaries at my door, I invited them in and talked for awhile but I must say mormonism is a hard thing to swallow. In the BOM it says Natives were originally white and God cursed there skin red… Scientifically that is proven incorrect. Also I just saw a video of Shay Carl where his sister mooned the camera just wearing her underwear, nothing wrong with that but why must they wear knee length clothing and then be mooning cameras? Also way back when the BOM was written God told Joseph Smith that they could mary more then one women, and now its not allowed. Iv never read about this undecided God in the Bible. (Please do not take this the wrong way.)
Plural marriage was a commandment of god. It helped to multiply the mormon religion 10 fold. in fact without it I would not be here. We no longer practice polygamy, though some people THAT ARE IN NO WAY A PART OF OUR CHURCH still practice it. Thats one of the biggest misconceptions of the Mormon church because people think that were just a bunch of polygamists.
and you really cant judge a religion by the members, humans are humans. There are some members that are totally chill (like myself) and there are those are really strict and obediant. but hey, i say more power too them.
every religion at first is “a hard thing to swallow” Its about patience and learning, if i were you i would ask those missionarys to come back sometime.
I’ll be honest. I adore Shay and his family. I knew he was a Mormon. To be frankly honest. I’m a Christian(Non-Denomination) and I understand a lot of different beliefs. To be frankly honest Somethings that Shay does isn’t what a spiritual person does like his sister wearing her underwear mooning people. I understand people are not perfect, but Shay shows real love towards his family. Mormonism is a whole separate level of a belief. I’m not going to start a debate on salvation and whatnot. To what I researched on Mormonism I find it to be very interesting. The way of the celestial beings being born in heaven, I can feel what J Smith was getting at. Eventually getting to heaven yes. But, I don’t believe Jesus and Satan were brothers. Any mormon reading this don’t get offended by this. Like I said earlier different belief system and not putting out a debate. I had a friend who was a mormon, never pushed his his faith onto me, but he was awesome friend, he moved to another state. Doesn’t mean because of their faith or belief people are evil or crazy. Salvation is important but if people don’t want hear what you want to say then what can you do. Anyway getting back to Shay, he’s awesome!!
I know what I wrote earlier may have been a little strange how I worded it. What I’m trying to say is that Mormonism and Christianity is very different.
I really want to know what your so called LIES are…
and I want you to hold a good argument please. What lies are there?
Also, Mormon is a nickname.. they are more formally known as LDS.
I very much enjoy watching the ‘shaytards’ vlog and find the couple and the family very engaging. Shay has a great personality as does his wife and the camera loves them both. I am a little befuddled however about his work on the ‘station’ with his friends ‘kassemg’ and ‘lisanova’–that stuff is not all that family friendly. I was also disappointed at Shay’s behavior at the ‘Streamies’ show. My kids watch his vlogs, but I want to make sure they are shuffled off to these other videos because Shay at one time or another ‘favorites’ them. What does the LDS church say about the company kept, words used, and endorsements of lifestyles that seem to be contrary to what others would consider Christian principles.
just randomly came across this site…first of all what does it even matter if hes a Mormon or not?
2nd noone should put down another religion i mean I dont like the fact that they always come to my house aswell as the Jehovahs and try and like make me join their church but ill still listen to what they have to say.
Just one thing the other day I was at my aunts and Mormons came and were talking about how the bible can help us with the recession or something and they were going to give us a little booklet but we said that we would rather them give it to someone who would read it because we knew we would just throw it out and they were like Well can we please leave it with you?
It was like they have to meet a certain quota of giving out these booklets and talking to some people like its a business…i dont like that.
It was so obvious that they’re mormon. The big family is the best give-away. It’s a shame though that they’re part of such a racist and homophobic church.
Obviously, you have done poor research and are unable to understand the beliefs of this church.
i think it’s interesting how people can say that this happy, normal and fun-loving family is part of cult, and automatically turn on them because of their religion. the only people i’ve known who thought Mormonism was a cult were people who had never really met or known a Mormon and thought that we were are all insane, weird and overly-religious whackjobs with no senses of humor or fun. i could see how people would think that if they had never met or known a Mormon. but i’m just surprised that people can still think we’re all evil and cultish, even after seeing how happy and normal this family is. you’d think that the hilarious Shaytards would have change peoples’ perceptions of us, but i guess not.
I agree with Owen. No amount of justifying by some secondary prophet can bring validity to the cult of Mormon. The trouble isn’t with the beautiful values of family, love, or community. The trouble is that it’s a beautiful paint-job over a faulty structure. I appreciate how wonderful many Mormons are to their families. I also appreciate how wonderful many atheists, agnostics, Catholics, Buddhists, Muslims, or Taoists are to their families. People choose their own actions through God-given free will — it’s a reflection of a willingness to do good, rather than a result of what some prophet or other wise man says.
But I digress… Through the simple logic that Owen has presented, it is easy to see that there are immediate and damning contradictions in the theology of Mormonism.
And just to drive a point home — McKay said, “I believe someday, that those who are ultimately rightous, and endure to the end can have “god like powers” as he does”. Does this sound familiar? Who else wanted God-like powers? Satan.
Also, McKay, for you to assume of Will: “obviously you are a man that let satan right through the front door”. Isn’t there a lesson in the Bible… or even your Book of Lies…oops I mean Mormon… that says something about judging the character of another?
Jesus says in Matthew 7 — “We must not judge rashly, nor pass judgment upon our brother without any ground. We must not make the worst of people. Here is a just reproof to those who quarrel with their brethren for small faults, while they allow themselves in greater ones…”
… or Does Joseph Smith excuse you from that?
I’ll just start out by saying that I’m not here to offend anyone since someone obviously will be offended. Trust me.
It’s probably the most stupid question to ask someone with faith in something but… Why? I see no reason in believing in a Heaven and Hell and a god. Why isn’t it enough to believe that there are good and bad people whose lives have been shaped by others and that when they die they’re dead. Instead of burning in Hell or living in Heaven they are remembered for who they were: good fathers, good mothers, sisters and brothers and children or on the other hand liars and sadists (and anything else evil you can come up with!)
I just can’t see the point of wanting to live forever. I am incredibly happy with the life I have and the people I know.
I am a complete and utter Atheist. I have never stolen; sure, I’ve lied every now and then. But I’ve always been a good person trying to do good things. And yet according to all your religions I will burn in Hell because I don’t embrace something I can’t believe in.
Is it the uncertainty of death that is the scary part? That some need to feel assured that death is not the end? Why not? When you’ve lived a long life I think you deserve that rest. As long as someone remembers you or sees a picture of you you’re never really dead.
Basically, I’m just sick and tired of all the fighting between religious people and those who aren’t. I’ll just say that you can flame me as much as you want. Hell? I couldn’t care less.
and to the guy above me who said that the Mormon church is racist and homophobic, do you really think that the Shaytards are racist and homophobic? after seeing how cool, friendly and down-to-earth Shay and his super-attractive wife are? and i see comments on the Shaytards’ Youtube video sites questioning why they’re so happy all the time, and why their families can’t be like that. wouldn’t people be more respectful of their religion after seeing how happy it has made them? i’m also glad they’re all over Youtube to show people that Mormons are normal and funny just like everyone else, and not part of some cult with weird rituals. you wouldn’t believe some of the weird things people said they thought we did and believed, or things they thought we weren’t allowed to do, when I lived in Massachusetts and Vermont for two years. people thought all Mormons couldn’t do things like dance, listen to music, watch TV, talk about things besides religion, or even use telephones. we’re not Amish people! and some thought that all Mormons were just men in suits who went preaching door to door all day, or that all the Mormons who exist in the entire world only live in Utah.
one thing i forgot, several people out there also thought that Mormons still practiced polygamy. i was in Massachusetts right after Mitt Romney was elected governor, and i spoke with a woman who thought Romney had five wives simply because he was Mormon. with the help of the Shaytard videos, at least now people can see that we only have one spouse just like everybody else. and from what i’ve read in the previous comments, i do think it’s funny how people think the loving and happy Shaytards, as well as other Mormons with good values, will go to eternal Hell simply for what they believe, and for following, what those commenters call, a “convicted con artist.” that’s crazy talk to think that people will go to Hell simply because of their religion, as well as to talk about how wonderful of people the Shaytards are, but then later mention that they’ll sadly go to Hell because of their beliefs. and also, two-year missions are NOT mandatory for Mormons. there just happen to be a lot of young men, and some young women, who actually want to go on them.
I love the Shaytards….I am so impressed with their lifestyle I mean the whole family is so close,it really is a lesson for people to love and spend time with your family.Is this waht Mormonism preaches?If it is then I am converting.
Oh my freakin GOD!!!!! Why is there so much politics about something we never see, but we only think about, all religion is just ludicrous, and absurd. Besides , what is the point of religion, all it does is start fights and just creates problems, just live your life to the fullest and don’t wast your time with all of this religious bullshit. Now don’t get me wrong I love the shaytards and all you other religious people but your just wasting your time
Really, LDS isn’t a cult? Time to buy a dictionary, because any group the believes in zombies and cannibalism is ‘reasonably considered strange’. Don’t worry though, I’m not excluding all the other religions of the world from cult status too. You all belong to a cult.
Rev 22:18 “I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.”
Proverbs 30:6 “Do not add to His words Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.”
Need I say more? The book of mormon came after the bible and therefore is added. God doesnt change the bible is perfect and doesnt need any other books added to it. The bible is the only book that was “God Breathed” the book of mormon doesnt even come close.
Joe,
Did you know that the Bible didn’t exist until long after the book of revelation was written. Most scholars believe that John wrote Revelation before he wrote John 1. http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/qa/adding_bible.htm
i feel like i need to make one comment..mommytard wearing knee length shorts in a video really has nothing to do with her religion…if you check shay’s myspace theres pictures of mommytard wearing an array of clothes that are not ‘knee length’
aaand..the shaytards are awesome! everyone has their own ideas about relgion and what they think is best, so who cares. they make awesome videos and from what ive seen, shay and his family have good morals that are outside of relgion that many people can look up to and learn from
I wandered across this site in an effort to find out whether the Shaytards are Christians or not. I have really enjoyed watching their videos and appreciate seeing a solid family that spends time. This is so rare.
Finding out they are Mormon doesn’t make me angry or even cause me to stop watching their videos; after all, it’s positive.
I, myself, am a Christian (although I am coming to strongly dislike the term as so many Christian ARE judgemental and very unloving) and do not agree with Mormonism. Some time ago I decided I needed to learn more so as not to be ignorant and picked up “Under the Banner of Heaven” by Jon Krakauer. Maybe this was the wrong historical account to read but can the Mormons present explain some of the history? I apologize, but John Smith does not seem like a man I want to trust! Any suggestions on other factual literature I could read would be greatly appreciated.
All that being said, I wish more CHRISTIAN families lived the way the Shaytards do. Thank you Shaytards for being a positive example.
Good on you to do your own research. I myself haven’t read Under the Banner of Heaven but I have studied the history of the mormon church quite a bit.
Let’s just say that in any religion there will be zealots. People who take what their religious leaders say to extremes. It is unfortunate but true. That’s why so many people are turning to atheism.
Joseph Smith was very loved and very hated (falsely imprisoned several times and even murdered). Those who hated him were typically close to him at some point and became apostates because they were offended in some way. Many of them made it their goal in life to defame Smith and created rumors and lies. Was Joseph Smith perfect? No, Christ is the only perfect man to live on this earth. I’ve never met him but I have grown up in the church he established and am grateful that he sacrificed his life to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. http://books.google.com/books?id=_izMO9Xdq2UC&lpg=PR1&dq=joseph%20smith%20biography&pg=PA8#v=onepage&q=joseph%20smith%20biography&f=false
Here is the LDS Church’s response to that book.
http://bit.ly/aKHMTu
I’m Mormon too, and I noticed that he is LDS. I do videos like him every day, so it’s hard to keep it to yourself
Ya…I watched probably less than 5 minutes and started guessing. That’s why I googled it lol.
That is a big part of Mormonism
Check out http://www.mormon.org
Hi, I am a non-Mormon from the agnostic East Coast. I was reading this to find out some info about the funny Shaytards, and I was really surprised by some of the hate being spewed at “believers”. Religion is nothing if not a personal quest for meaning, and people find answers and meaning in different places. Mormons are free to be Mormons without ongoing persecution from better-than-though internet trolls. You, Bryan, can also beleive whatever you like, but why do you feel compelled to mount an expose attack. you probably have one of those Darwin fish with legs bumper skickers. I too think Creation and Bible stories are far-fetched, and also believe religion has cultish qualities, but I would never try to impose my beliefs on another. It’s hateful, unamerican, and reeks of pretentiousness. So back off, buddy, and let the good, altrustic, god-fearing folks with strong families be. Thanks.
Hi, I am a non-Mormon from the agnostic East Coast. I’m going to post this again toward the bottom. I was reading this to find out some info about the funny Shaytards, and I was really surprised by some of the hate being spewed at “believers” (not you Whitney, just replying here). Religion is nothing if not a personal quest for meaning, and people find answers and meaning in different places. Mormons are free to be Mormons without ongoing persecution from better-than-though internet trolls. You, Bryan, can also beleive whatever you like, but why do you feel compelled to mount an expose attack. you probably have one of those Darwin fish with legs bumper skickers. I too think Creation and Bible stories are far-fetched, and also believe religion has cultish qualities, but I would never try to impose my beliefs on another. It’s hateful, unamerican, and reeks of pretentiousness. So back off, buddy, and let the good, altrustic, god-fearing folks with strong families be. Thanks. That said, lose the door-to-door stuff
i do realize that missions are a big part of the Mormon church, Whitney. i just don’t like how so many people think we “force” our young men to serve two-year missions. growing up i had several friends who thought that young men were disowned by their parents or kicked out of the church if they didn’t serve missions. this was probably because so many of them go on missions, so people think it’s mandatory and will “make or break you” as a Mormon.
ummm ya you sound like you really know what your talking about since you know so much about the Mormon Church. Shut up seriously. you don’t know crap. I don’t see why you even care. Is it that big of a deal if shays Mormon or not? No. So just don’t go around saying things you don’t know anything about. Until you read the book of Mormon, go to church, and get baptized, dont say anything about what we believe in.
He’s mormon. They went to temple square in a couple of there videos. And he posted a video about how hes a returned missionary and all about the church but ended up taking it down
The US needs to stop churning out cults, seriously. Enough is enough.
I totally felt that too! There were no real signs in the first videos that I watched but I just had this feeling that they were Mormon. It was crazy when I found out haha. The same thing happened when I started reading Twilight…
This is directed to Candice who replied to Reverend_Kansas: Candice, I am not Mormon but I have served with many Mormons in Boy Scouts at the district and council level. Not one of them would have attacked the reverend like you did nor would they have used the language that you did. You don’t further your cause or persuade people of your righteousness with obscenities and hatefulness.
The wisest people i know have bared their Testimony to me of the truthfullness of this church. alot of them are converts too. most even come to tears when they speak of their father in heaven and his great plan for us. it is very warming to the soul to hear people who havent even grown up knowing what a mormon was, express their love for this church and its members.
I just dont understand why so many of you hate. Hate us blindly like we are commiting great whoredoms or something.
Why would you hate something that expounds on love, happiness, living a good life.
Something that promises Eternal life with our loved ones. To be able to live with our heavenly father and be happy forever.
I am so happy to be apart of this church. im grateful for the leaders i have and all the great things ive been able to learn,do, and accomplish because of them.
I am grateful for the atonement and sacrifice of the savior, Jesus Christ.
This church IS the true church. i know it. I believe that it is one of the last things on this Earth that has not been corrupted.
Please. Though everybody has their beliefs and oppinions, Love one another. Be kind and good to eachother.
No matter where you come from.
Sarah, this is meant for you but for some reason it will not let me replay to your message so i hope you see this.
your right. i probably should not have said that to Will. my temper got the best of me and for that i am sorry.
however I do believe that someday. perhaps billions of years from now. i will be able to have god like powers like my heavenly father does.
did you also know (sidenote) that mormons believe the bible to be true as far as it is translated correctly?
I am not an overtly religious person. I am still a teenager, so I am trying to figure things out. I was raised in an anglican household, but my parents do not force me to practice the religion and have encouraged me to find what suits me best. They also get extremely angry with anyone who bashes another person’s beliefs. As much as we would like to think our religion or beliefs are ‘right’, how is anyone to know. I may be naive, but truly, it seems really pretentious to belittle others values. This is a loving and fun family. I honestly wish my childhood was more like this growing up. So they mush be doing something right. I like the idea that they are not only focused on some kind of afterlife, but the present as well. It is way less morbid.
but hey, I am just a teen
This entire debate over the religion of the Shaytards is rediculous. Who cares whether or not they are mormons. All that matters, in my opinion, is that they are a great family in which the parents are obviously doing something right as they have such a loving family. I’m glad that they are on the internet as it is really refreshing to see such a great family. Their religious beliefs are irrelivant.
As a Christian, I truly admire the obvious family values (love, repsect, companionship, fellowship etc..) displayed CONSTANTLY in their vlogs. But from what little I do know know about LDS… it is flawed in the area of salvation thru the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I am sadden to think that such a sweet and loving family doesnt truly own this precious gift from God. Unfortunately, there will be alot of “GOOD” people not in heaven… I am not judging them! I think they are AWESOME! So they are in my prayers.
In HIM
TxGuy
I’m a stay at home mom and spend most of my time with my family. I wear Bermuda shorts which are knee length. I go to church on Sundays. And I want a herd of kids. But I am not Mormon, I just love being a mom. This is just what all Americans with morals and family values do. I know it’s a hard concept when people glorify single & teenage moms. People still do fall in love, get married, AND THEN have kids that they want and planned for, not just Mormons, lol.
The shaytards never preach religion, and are just about having fun as a family, just like I do. I do watch occasionally when I have time and remember. I wish there were more families like them in this country, then we would have so many problems.
Shay actually says he is Mormon in one of the first SHAYTARDS videos.
I respect that you’re giving a shoutout to them, but you really didn’t need to add their town…
im a catholic and i do not think the Book of mormons is true but at least they have family spirit, they are caring, and friendly ect.. i do not believe in them but i belive that it is useless to start judging them and being disrespectful to them. thanks ( i am 13 years old and i ended up here due to the fact i was searching shaytards childrens name and it sent me here )
I think no one has yet to really hit the nail on the head here with the mormons. I was a JW (Jehovah’s witness) myself and after some research it was quite easy to find out that the JW’s, mormons are basically one in the same; a spawn of the masonic temple order. The imagery is ridden throughout the mormon temple. Google mormon temple handshake or mormon all seing eye. Why does the mormon temple have the secret masonic handshake on its walls? Or the illuminati/masonic all seeing eye on many of its towers? Its all about money and control and power, those in control really do laugh and think you are all vunerable gullable people.
Do some academic research folks pull your head out of the sand.
Not to mention the deeper doctrine of the LDS church is riddled with masonic ritual. The average church attender will never know what happens behind the closed doors of the high ranking officials and members. We have to rely on the testimony of those high up who have escaped cults like mormonism and the JW’s to inform the world of their true intent/practices. It’s absolutely naive to think that what you see and hear at an LDS temple is what you get. It literally takes an hour of youtubing and wikipedia/google research to get inside info about what the church is about:
MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY….! MONEYYYYYYY!!!!
It is pretty crazy that in the year 2010 people still believe the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is a cult. Leave the Mormons alone. I thought we were supposed to be beyond hate and prejudices by now. They are just trying to find their own peace and happiness. Shaytards seem like a happy family. How many of us secretly wish we had that?
I’m subscribed to Shaytards but haven’t watched the videos much…. been to busy… until now. I wear knee length (or longer) bottoms and go to church every Sunday– and I’m Catholic haha! Well I knew they probably weren’t Catholic because they favourited a video poking fun of us (but that could have meant they were Catholics with an extremely good sense of humour
) But in a recent video about Jesus uploading videos in heaven, he mentioned how he would be married in heaven and all and I thought that sounded a bit Mormon. Anyway, just my thoughts. They have a nice family. I don’t agree with LDS beliefs but it’s no reason to judge them…
Ya the bible says not to change the words of god. But the book of mormon dosent change anything, it supports the bible. Plus MAN is not adding anything to the bible joseph smith simply translated it. If you want to call mormanism a cult then what are you? Everything is a cult when you give it those standards. Why spend the rest of your life hating a religion? Mormans don’t put you down or your religion and if its people who believe in god you don’t like, just think, you might not think god is real but is it really hurting you that someone does? Stop hating and love your brothers and sisters. Love and laughter never hurt anyone and if you don’t like that your not living life.
gee, Txguy. you claim to not be judging the Shaytards, but then you say that they’re not going to heaven and that they don’t own the “precious gift from God?” how can you be the judge of whether or not they’ll go to heaven when they die? i for one believe that all good people with good moral values and clean lives, like the Shaytards, will go to heaven, and I’m sure God feels the same way. i doubt God would really send the Shaytards to Hell simply for being Mormon. it’s stupid to think that someone won’t go to heaven just because you and other members of your faith don’t agree with their religion and/or think it’s wrong. i guess i could understand if the person belonged to the Church of Satan or something like that. but really, i don’t understand how so many so-called Christians can say that Mormons won’t get into heaven simply because of their beliefs. it’s not like there are any evil practices involved with the faith.
If they are mormons, they must not be very good ones, because Shay’s sworn in a couple of videos, Shay’s sister has a kid and doesn’t seem to be married, and they drink beer.
Ok. Who cares what religion you are?? Let bygones be bygones, i mean really are you that immature??
@ Anna, Mormons aren’t perfect, just because he has sworn once or twice doesn’t mean hes a “bad” Mormon. Also him being Mormon doesn’t make his sister family Mormon. . . Just sayin not trying to be rude.
He makes a big deal about being surrounded by mormons in one of his videos… I don’t know, doesn’t sound like he’s a mormon.
I’m Catholic and a lot of my friends wear knee-length shorts and go to Church on sundays. I also know a bunch of protestants who don’t wear anything less than ankle-length and have big families. I don’t think they’re valid reasons to decide Shay is mormon. Not that I’d have a problem with that, I’m just saying.
Also, that myspace page linked above is a fake. The writing style and content doesn’t look at all like Shay’s.
Joseph smith was a freemason, C.T Rusell was a freemason, Elrond Hubbard was a science fiction writer, Sun Myung Moon is a crazy old korean who thinks he is jesus.
Get the picture here? @lookingforpeace I cant believe its 2010 and people still are this gullible. Do some damn research people and look at those who created these cults. Fuzzy and warm on the outside, full uf messed upu doctrine and practices in the inside. Being an ex-member of one of these cults I can tell you that people throw money at them like no tomorrow. Go and file a freedom of information request for the LDS/JW/Moonie/Scientology financial info over the past 20 years.
Its all about money and if you cant realise this then your naive.
I come from a big christian family infact the whole country is christian (Slovenia(its in europe)). Me and my family live a couple of metres from a chuirch. I am the only one in my family in hundreds of years that has regacted the faith of my parents.I am an ATHIEST and you know what i love my family, i love nature and i love my friend who dont believe the things i do. WHY CANT YOU JUST LOVE EACH OTHER NO METER WHAT YOUR BELIEVES ARE OR THEIRS. EVERY SO CALLED GOD WANTS LOVE BETWEEN PEOPLE WHY THE POOP CANT YOU GET THAT!? Gues what im 16 years old and i get that, I have read the bible and gues what i wont tell you what i think about (some thoughts should just stay in your harts)and so should you. May LOVE AND HAPPINESS BE WITH YOU
ha, i just started watching the shaytards about a month ago. i had my ‘hunch’ about them being mormons. once they ‘mormon’ parade video showed, thats when i knew. plus he also mentioned a 3 hour church service or whatever and i figured that too.
probably the coolest mormons ive ever seen…and believe me, i live in a mormon infested town…ha.
plus all the children are a give away too.
lol.
I think it’s an absolute shame that these “Christians” as they claim to be have to threaten and judge the Mormons. I thought that passing judgement was God’s job..not yours…hmm weird. But the LDS church is absolutely not a cult. And these websites are absolutely false. Joseph Smith was not a convicted con-man. Get real! Do you believe everything on the internet? If so…sad for you. Most of the people who post these anti-mormon sites have never met a mormon. You want to get real information on mormonism? go to lds.org..read the strength of youth…read the book of mormon…read all of those and then tell me that Mormonism is a “cult”
How many of you “Mormon Bashers” have looked into what the LDS church truly teaches instead of only reading what your fellow “Bashers” preach about what we as “Mormons” believe. Please do your homework before you just assume because we live by a few different standards we are a cult and are going to hell.
How many of you “Mormon Bashers” have looked into what the LDS church truly teaches instead of only reading what your fellow “Bashers” preach about what we as “Mormons” believe. Please do your homework before you just assume because we live by a few different standards we are a cult and are going to hell. Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet, I read the other day that Snoop Dog had joined the church and that Elvis Presley hadn’t died but faked his death to join the church and is now a Stake President in Idaho, should I believe this, I don’t think so.
Shay and his family ARE LDS. His sister is LDS. She is getting divorced. Shay has cussed a few times in the videos. Lots of Mormons cuss, geez! Some of us smoke and drink Coke and coffee, too-oh the shame! And the poster that said they drink beer is incorrect. No matter what we do, we know that our Church is the “true” Church. No, we don’t think everyone else is gonna burn in hell, unlike Owen up ^^^ there! We happen to love others and respect their choice to worship freely, unlike Owen up ^^^ there.
Speaking of CONVICTED con men, wasn’t Jesus kinda in the same boat? Just sayin’.
No one is forcing anyone to be LDS, so what is the problem? The people coming down on our Church are doing a similar thing as racists, homophobes, etc. Live and let live.
The “Shaytards” are an amazing family. I love them!
Thanks for having this page!
Well I too was looking for more info about Shaycarl and family when I came to this site and my comments are few but heartfelt.
We live in a world always seeking more/getting more/having more than the next guy but if it involves literally helping the fellow man we are weird. More people feel an entitlement in this life because they don’t have faith in something more than attaining wealth. Regardless of religious practice if we all stopped hating people for their difference of what their heaven is and tried to be better to one another ridicule and hate would not be as prevalent in our society. That is too easy an answer but I believe God put us on this planet for a purpose and hate of people that seemingly gooddoesn’t fit in
Also to respond Shay is a “bad mormon” for swearing and working around undesirable people is further judgenment of religion not only of LDS. If all people were practicing integrity to that the LDS are supposed to then the world would be a better place.
For the record: I am happy to watch a guy goofing with his family daily and it makes me smile good people are posting on youtube…and getting followed daily by growing numbers…regardless of his religious practices.
Wow…a lot of you people are wack. I just don’t get why people shoot down other people for their beliefs. Won’t it be better if we just treated each other with respect rather than fighting over who’s better? All of these religions have “Blackholes” if you may refer to them as such. The bottom line here is all of us sin, so please don’t act like you are better than others. And Mormon isn’t politically correct people. A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint is more like it.
Whoa, there are some nasty people saying some nasty things on here.
I just go by a “love everybody” view of life and it seems to work for me.
I adore the Shaytards and I couldn’t possibly care less about what religion they are. Anyone can see they’re good people and they love each other a lot. That is the only important thing.
just wondering…what is the deal with the ‘tard’ suffix? (Shaytard, momytard, babytard, etc) Is this is some kind of ‘humorous’ insinuation that they are ‘retards’? If so, it is offensive and in very poor taste.
The ‘tard’ comes from leotard. There is a very early video where shaycarl is dancing around in a leotard.
Wtf is this a morons website???
I’m really astonished at how much bickering there is in this thread. It’s too bad that just because the Shaytards might be Mormons, it would automatically change your opinion of them. Also, it’s too bad that all these Mormon commenters have to get on here and defend their beliefs. What would drive you to tell someone you don’t even know, that their religion is wrong whether they are Mormons, Muslims, Moonies, or Jedis. What gives you the right to challenge the path someone else travels to be a better human?
What gave it away for me was in the first couple videos they go to church a lot and dress a lot like mormons would and they lived in idaho. also princesstard was singing “I love to see the temple” randomly at home one time. Also there was a familiar picture of jesus we have hanging in our church building. there was always one thing that made me doubt whether they were mormon or not wass that shay would curse sometimes. But other than that it was pretty obvious. i love watching their videos and it makes me want a family like theirs.
nothing gave it away for me, but my son guessed they were mormon because they were just too happy and fun. He said they were like the family on a SouthPark episode and then just guessed that the Shaytards were probably Mormon. Well, he guessed right.
ah well..
sucks to be them.
i tried to witness to them, and show them the lies that their religion teaches, but i never heard back from Shay or mommytard. They’re too busy to respond even if they did read my msg and more than likely too far into their brain washing; i doubt there’s any hope for them.
Shaycarl pretty much disgusts me, while at the same time i find him sometimes funny and quite entertaining. Also he has some respectable qualities about him as far as working to provide for his family and just giving himself to his family.
they seem to be flying pretty high right now. i doubt it will last much longer, but who knows.